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  Do Jws even need Jesus?

  by TTWSYF in

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  2. friends

  just thinking out loud becauseof some things my elder brother has said in the past.

  how his works help ensure his future w/the great crowd on earth.. .

  well, i need jesus for my salvation,but perhaps some of you do not.. just asking.

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  Separation of Powers

  Jesus is an afterthought...only useful for the indoctrination session at Memorial season. If you want to be a Christian, you cannot at the same time be a Jehovahs Witness
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  "The Friends"

  by FeelingFree in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have only come across this term very recently on jwn and in an "apostate" video i watched yesterday.

  never have i heard anyone refer to jw's as "the friends" here in the uk.

  is it just used in america?.

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  Separation of Powers

  Mine as well, mainly by the older generations...the newbies just say the brothers
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  What Was Your Body of Elders Like?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  were they pretty much a good group of men?

  we're they jerks?.

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  Separation of Powers

  one word.....aloof
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  Reinstatement - repentance - works - Can you explain how this is supposed to work?

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  nov 15, 2006 wt.

  when requesting reinstatement, he should be able to give evidence that he has repented and is producing works that befit repentance.acts 26:20.. .

  how possibly can someone "give evidence" or "produce works"?.

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  Separation of Powers

  If you are disfellowshipped and desire reinstatement, the following suggestions may help: (satirical purposes only)

  1) Start attending meetings regularly. All the meetings. Sit in a conspicuous spot, preferably the last seat in the last row, close to the aisle. Never cross your legs as this can be construed as comfortable and DFing is all about discomfort.

  2) Underline every magazine, book or booklet that is considered. Yellow highlighter works best, orange is acceptable, blue and green are not. This includes printouts from references used in the meeting. Make sure you have the approved bookbag as well. NOT an attache, any self-respecting bigwig would not use an attache nor should you.

  3) Listen attentively. When something funny is said, don't laugh, smile and look down, be part of the group but not. The group can laugh because the funny comment is only understood as funny by the "group." You are not part of the group but wish you were.

  4) Get to the meeting early enough to sit down BEFORE the song starts, but not too early that you have to make eye contact with anyone, even children. Look sad, but not devastated, a blank stare works well before and after the meeting, but not a drunken stupor stare, just a blank stare.

  5) If someone approaches you before or after the meeting, simply say, "I am sorry. I am disfellowshipped." Nothing else. These are sometimes tests and believe me, even if they are not, someone is watching. They are always watching.

  6) Examine the newest magazines. Any pictures of meetings in progress will tell you how you must dress and how you must groom yourself. It is true, you are not part of the congregation, but to be accepted back into the congregation, you must LOOK like the quintessential Witness. Although not in the magazine, you already know...no tight pants, no colorful socks, and definitely NO SPANXX.

  7) You will probably have to wait at least 6 months before you make a request for reinstatement. This is best done in writing (New Times Roman at font size 12, single spaced, not overly verbose). This time span is a minimum for most JC's. If you have missed any meetings, this will probably extend it a bit. Remember, it is OK if the elders, MS, or their wives miss the meetings, they are already in. Don't keep records of who is there and who is not, and especially don't EVER bring this up to anybody as it will probably leak back to someone on the JC.

  8) If you are granted an audience, remember this is a formality. It does not mean that you will be reinstated. The decision may have been decided before the meeting ever takes place, so be patient. At the meeting, the JC that dealt with you initially may be the same one that DF'd you, they know your situation. Be respectful and courteous. Some of the questions may be obvious, so obvious in fact that you may want to laugh....DON"T! Every response must be a reflection of how the sin has affected the relationship with Jehovah, his congregation, other witnesses. You must make mention of how saddened you are by what was done, a few tears or tearful eyes with a handy hankercheif in your pocket or used tissue works well here. Don't freak out! Excessive crying or overt emotion may be construed as mental problems and the JC is not equipped to deal with mental problems.

  9) At the end of the audience, thank them for meeting with you and apologize to them for having disrupted their evening, afternoon, etc. Tell them that you really appreciate them and that you realize now what a blessing they are and that you didn't really appreciate them before. If you can't do this sounding convincing and sincere, just excuse yourself and say thanks, clutching your bible to your chest with one hand and wiping the last tear from your eyes with the used up tissue. Before you leave, clutch the Bible tightly again, but, never kiss the bible...that's just wrong on too many levels.

  10) Wait for the reponse. If the answer is no then wait a few months, rinse and repeat.
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  I'm Shocked The Jehovah's Witnesses Even Allow Their Kids To Go To Mainstream Schools.

  by Jehovanomics in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  judging by the material that my kid brings home on a daily basis in copius amounts.

  everything about everything in elementary school goes against the doctrines of the jehovah's witnesses.

  how do jw's expect to make any money if all of their kids are defecting the jw's?

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  What?!? And not allow them to build up their defenses against using their hand to draw the tail of a turkey!!! They need to stand up for righteousness from an early age....If they can die for not taking a blood transfusion, they can take the heat for not celebrating Mother's day! Toughen up little Witness kid! It will only get worse from here!
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  The inactive God

  by Rattigan350 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the creation vs evolution argument:.

  the often used illustration of a watch found in the desert.

  someone had to make it.. with creation also someone had to make it.

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  Separation of Powers

  My father keeps working and I keep working......

  Not much productivity
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  8 Year Old Getting Baptized!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  eight year old getting baptized!

  (from a jw site.

  this 8 year old sister was the youngest of the 31 who were baptized at a regional convention in bogo city, cebu, philippines on the weekend.

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  Separation of Powers

  Good for her! Now if she mentally remained as gullible and easily swayed as an 8 yers old then her time with the OG will be well spent. I believe, however, that when she hits about 14-16 she will begin to see the hypocrisy of her parents and the bros and sis and will begin to rebel not recognizing that the decision that she made as a CHILD will have persistent and endless repercussions!!!
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  what would happen If?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i submitted a letter to the local k hall, explaining that i no longer believe my baptism as a jw is valid, based on my current bible knowlege.

  and i wish to be no longer considered a baptised [in this organization], jw, but simply a christain who studies the bible.. and then would continue to attend meetings?.

  they couldnt prevent me, its open to the public.. .

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  Separation of Powers

  They couldnt and wouldnt stop you from attending meetings, you would, however, be treated like a disfellowshipped person and they would, in fact, love if you kept coming to meetings because shunning is an art that must be learned by practice.
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  Spiritually Dead Children

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is a gem... charles sinutko had great skills at parenting.

  you can download from here, http://da.getmyip.com/.

  the pale horse of death had just ridden again.

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  Separation of Powers

  Thanks for posting this gem!!!

  I was only familiar with the fiasco that is "stay alive till 1975" from this guy.

  He is probably long dead now.....what was his name again....SuNUTCASE...oh yeah, that's it.

  "wish later to God those children had never been born..." what a wackjob!

  Just proves what Paul said, "Having NO NATURAL AFFECTION..."
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  Headquarters representatives visit to UK 2015

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a letter is to be read out at service meetings this week in the uk saying that sam herd & john larson are visiting next april.

  on sat 25th there will be a 3 hour programme streamed to all congs.

  the postscript (not to be read out) instructs congs that haven't already done so, to order the necessary equipment.

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  Separation of Powers

  Congratulations! Maybe they will condemn Doc Martins